Dependent Items ping loss

[markfree]

I wanted to monitor internet availability by pinging some known providers. I thought that, by taking the response time of those DNS's, it would give some good indication of availability and how is performance. Actually, I find those results very good.
But I also tried to monitor the possible packet loss of those pings. Then I created some dependent items with the following keys.

Name	Triggers	Key	Interval	History	Trends	Type
ICMP response time Cloudflare: ICMP loss CloudFlare		icmppingloss[1.0.0.1,4,200,,200]		1w	365d	Dependent item
ICMP response time Google: ICMP loss Google		icmppingloss[8.8.4.4,4,200,,200]		1w	365d	Dependent item
ICMP response time Vivo DNS: ICMP loss Vivo DNS		icmppingloss[,4,200,,200]		1w	365d	Dependent item
ICMP response time Cloudflare	Triggers 3	icmppingsec[1.0.0.1,4,200,,200]	5m	1w	365d	Simple check
ICMP response time Google	Triggers 3	icmppingsec[8.8.4.4,4,200,,200]	5m	1w	365d	Simple check
ICMP response time Vivo DNS	Triggers 3	icmppingsec[,4,200,,200]	5m	1w	365d	Simple check

They are all float values and ping loss is using a unit of %.
It happens that the ping loss values that I receive are comming with some weird percentage, like 0.0239%.
These values are actually the ping response times not the loss count.

Inicially I thought that pinging something could retrieve the availability, the response performance and also the loss count. But how could I get these informations without creating a bunch of items?

Is there a way to make that work, to calculate the loss count without creating new querys?

Thank you.

[markfree]

In my example above, I used the key "icmppingsec[1.0.0.1,4,200,,200]" for pinging and it sends 4 packets to CloudFlare DNS.
Could I collect each packet response time individually to use them on a dependent item?